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KELLER: UFC fans and announcers pushing sport in dangerous direction


Apr 22, 2009 - 11:53:45 PM
By Wade Keller, Torch editor
I was frustrated watching Anderson Silva's fight on Saturday night, too. The more the fight went on, though, the more frustrated I grew with the announcing and the fans. But in the heat of the moment, I could understand disappointment on everyone's part that two fighters weren't going at it to win, but rather they were fighting to survive. One was fighting to keep his title no matter what and the other was fighting to go the distance with a heralded champion since he determined early in the fight that he had almost no chance to win.

MMA is a sport. Some people don't like that we give star ratings to fights because they think MMA is so pure a sport, nobody should ever label a fight good or bad, exciting or boring (and that's all star-ratings are - shorthand for adjectives such as those), because all that matters is winning and losing. The outrage this week aimed at Silva and Leites is somewhat founded, but even more so dangerous. It's a case of fans demanding a four-star fight in a main event, even if that meant asking one or two fighters to act against their best interests and the integrity of their sport.

UFC, of course, would thrive more if all main event fights were exciting, if all fighters went all-out and played aggressively on offense and loosely on defense, taking chances that often would lead to a big KO but sometimes would lead to a preventable loss had they been more conservative.

UFC fans would get what they want more than anything, which is a big knockout or dramatic tapout or even a grueling, hard-fought, back-and-forth time-limit decision. But MMA can't guarantee that any more than the NBA can guarantee best of seven finals will go seven games, including several overtimes or last-second buzzer beaters. Sometimes there are blowouts. Sometimes stars don't play in the fourth quarter because the score is so lopsided and risking injury would be stupid. Late in the NFL season, I've been at games as a Minnesota VIkings season ticket holder when starters were benched because playoff positioning had already been decided and there was no sense risking injury. It's accepted as part of the game, even though a lot of fans payed money for expense tickets in the stadium to watch week 17 action.

Anderson Silva by round three had the fight won. He might have felt he had it won by half way into round one. He had the equivalent of a 42-3 lead at halftime. He did the equivalent of benching the starters in the fourth quarter. He did the equivalent of handing the ball off to a reliable running back who doesn't fumble and running out the clock. He did what a smart athlete does to win the game. He got the winning purse, he kept his title, he kept his reputation headed into a possible dream fight against George St. Pierre.

Had Anderson gone balls-out and "put on a show for the fans" - as the fans in the arena, as Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg addressed (Goldberg was more measured here and had his best outing as an announcer in a while after increasingly shaky performances in recent years), and as commentators and bloggers have called for since - he might have lost. He probably wouldn't have lost, but he might have. His odds of winning by fighting the way he fought was about 99 percent. His odds of winning if he fought the way the critics of the fight wanted, he had a 90 percent chance of winning. He had a lot to lose, so why increase his chance of losing ten-fold?

Some would say: To please the fans, the ones who pay his salary, the ones who travelled great distances to see him fight, the ones who might not buy his next fight because he held back.

That's a fair argument. After all, UFC charges a lot of money for PPVs and fans want to be entertained with great shows each time.

UFC, though, is a real sport. It's not pro wrestling where fans are 100 percent justified in expecting great match performances every time. It's not the movies where the audience is justified in expecting a well-acted, well-directed, well-paced, well-produced, dramatic show every time.

The price UFC fans pay for seeing something unpredictable and totally real is that sometimes, in the course of fighters trying to win - or better put, not risk losing (Silva) or not risk getting hurt and humiliated (Leites) - the fight isn't very exciting.

If UFC changes the rules and begins scoring fights in part on excitement level, in part on quantity and quality of punches and kicks thrown, and is willing to strip a champion of a title for being boring, then maybe fans will get better fights. But fans will no longer know who the better fighters are. They'll just learn from UFC fights who the more exciting performers are. Is that what UFC fans want? Is that what's best for the sport in the long run?

UFC is successful in part because of the perceived integrity of the sport. It's successful because a lot of times fights are extremely exciting or end with dramatic conclusions. Over time, those conclusions will be less dramatic if they seem manufactured or forced. And the sport will be less appealing to many if it seems to lack integrity.

Royce Gracie hated time-limits and stand-ups when they were instituted in UFC. He felt the integrity of an MMA fight was dependent on two fighters with almost no rules battling to a finish no matter how long it took and what direction it went. Heck, Joe Rogan has spoken out against stand-ups during fights on UFC PPVs because he believes refs have been prematurely standing up ground fighters for the sake of making fights "more exciting."

The sport has already made compromises for the sake of marketability and survival by instituting rounds, limiting certain moves, and forcing stand-ups during perceived stalemates on the ground. It's going too far, though, when the sport begins to demand that a champion fighting within the rules risks his well-being and his title in order to give the fans what they want at that moment. His goal should not be to entertain the fans, it should be to win fights. No NFL coach would keep his job if he lost a big fourth quarter lead because he decided to start passing every down to excite the fans and it resulted in multiple interceptions for touchdowns that flipped the score and lost the game.

UFC is doing just fine financially, and it always will as long as the sport has integrity. It would do better if all fights were exciting, and in as much as that's possible to encourage without crippling the sense that better skilled, more disciplined and prepared fighters are winning the vast majority of the time, then the sport will be fine. UFC cannot guarantee exciting fights all the time without taking away the main draw of the sport - that it presents real fights with deserving winners.

UFC would draw better if all of its top stars were charismatic and exciting fighters who were either passionately liked or disliked by the audience. Ideally they'd all speak English well, connect with fans on some level, and do great pre-fight interviews. It'd be great if the good looking fighters were likable and the ugly ones were naturally easy to hate. But that's not reality, that's pro wrestling. Sometimes an awkward uncharismatic Tim Silvia beats a more marketable Andre Arlovski. Sometimes a potential great rivalry like Anderson Silva vs. Rich Franklin turns out disappointingly one-sided. Sometimes a hugely well known established star like Chuck Liddell loses his chin and gets knocked out repeatedly before all of his big money dream fights can take place.

There's nothing UFC can do about it other than keep producing cards filled with the best fighters against the best fighters and hope for the best. It doesn't always work out, but MMA will survive some bad main events and some boring fight cards. It will not survive as a respected, legitimate sport if severe compromises are made in order to try to ensure "exciting" main events every month. It will end up being something entirely different than it should be and what its fans actually want it to be. MMA isn't defined by nor should it be defined by any one event. It's an ongoing story, and each UFC card is more akin to a three or four game series in baseball that may or may not be exciting. Each fight card is part of a bigger mosaic with various careers of fighters crossing paths and changing each other's course as part of something larger than just one fight card or one fight.

Outraged fans this week are upset because Anderson Silva didn't compromise the ultimate goal of any ultimate fighter - winning a fight. That's a dangerous threshold to cross. It's the wrong pressure to put on a fighter. He didn't disgrace himself or his sport. What he did is different than what Ken Shamrock and Dan Severn did in UFC's early days when they went to a much more frustrating, much more boring, genuinely disgraceful time limit.

There was no clear winner in that fight. Both fighters were playing not to lose, and thus they both were losers. Silva, on Saturday night, had a clear advantage, and it was up to Leites to try to change that. He needed to be the aggressor and force Silva's hand. Leities chose to preserve his well being and score some sort of small moral victory by surviving five rounds with Silva. He, not Silva, should be criticized. He, not Silva, should pay a price when it comes to future big fights and title shots. He has something to prove now. Someone as great as Silva playing conservatively with a lead in a sport where winning should always be everything has nothing to be ashamed of this week. (And even Silva in the most boring fight is still pretty dazzling, throwing in quick sidekicks to the knee, reverse kicks, and some dancing.)

For fans who want a virtual guarantee of a great show with a great finish, there's always pro wrestling, the movies, or some great books that are out there. Or there's waiting for the reviews of a UFC card to come in before deciding whether to order a replay or wait for the DVD to come out. For fans who want to see a real fight game with real winners and losers, it's time to accept that clunkers occur in UFC from time to time due to injuries, quick knockouts, freak eyelid tears, and yes, great champions winning fights on points against challengers who decide not to show the heart of a champion. It should be part of the reality that makes MMA such a great sport, not a mark against it.

If UFC loses ten percent of its potential audience - heck, even 40 or 50 percent - so be it. UFC's power brokers should put the integrity of the sport first. If that means fewer finicky fans with unrealistic expectations, smaller profits, and smaller payoffs for fighters, so be it. It's the reality. Manipulating that to increase fan satisfaction and increase profits compromises the sport in a way that would be more crippling in the long-run than occasional clunker main events.

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Wade Keller is the Supervising Editor and Founder of MMATorch.com. He has covered MMA for the Torch since before UFC existed, including Japanese shoot-fight cards such as Pancrase in the early 1990s, plus all of the early UFC PPV events (some of those reports can be found in the MMATorch Flashbacks category). He covered the first UFC event in Las Vegas in person in 2001 and Brock Lesnar's recent return to his hometown Minneapolis when he defeated "Crazyhorse" Heath Herring. He has interviewed Dana White, Mike Goldberg, the original UFC match-maker Art Davie, and others in MMA over the years. He has also been interviewed as an MMA reporter by major newspapers dating back to the mid-1990s. He has trained in karate, judo, and jiu jitsu, with over 12 years of formal martial arts training and tournament fighting. He is a double black stripe belt in tae kwon do.

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Daniel H. M.
23 Apr 2009, 07:52
While I can agree with what you are saying here, Mr. Keller, I wonder if looking for the W instead of showing a great performance isn't contrary to what sport ultimately is.

In my humble opinion, sport is not about winning or losing. The competitive aspect is meant to fuel the competitor, make him train even harder and try to become a better athlete. But you will never seen an athlete train to "just get enough to win", they always train their performance to its best form. And that's what we, as viewers and fans, would like to see.

Anderson Silva would have looked better in defeat if he went after Leites like he knows how, but then lost. Here, he looked bad in victory, which isn't good for anything besides his record.

Look at Stephan Bonnar. He lost his first big fight, against Griffin, yet became a huge star overnight in the world of MMA. Because he took risks, he showed how great an fighter he could be.

The integrity of this sport will never shine through lazy showings and cheap victories. It will shine through performances and fights that we'll remember for years to come.
That's what sport ultimately is : A commited, engaged and skillful performance.
CameraManZoomIt
23 Apr 2009, 07:59
Sorry, but 2 guys beating the crap out of each other is hardly a 'sport'
Fight != Sport
thejyav
23 Apr 2009, 08:14
I don't see where the argument that the announcers are pushing for more action comes from. They had no action going on in the cage and a crowd crapping all over the match, they had to comment on it. They both concluded that Silva was fighting smart and while not the most exciting match it was fighting smart. People were understandably upset because they spent a lot of money for the fight and the expectations for Silva were very high but anyone who is furious over this needs to get a life and realize that this isn't over tanned steroid filled fakes dancing around and winning when Vince McMahon says so. Real life can't always be drama filled and perfect. Bad match ups happen. Dana picked a bad match up.
Crash
23 Apr 2009, 08:59
As much as I don't like Dana, he was right for going after both fighters and admonishing them for not doing their job - which is to fight.

You can get all over Leites for not pushing the action, but then Silvia is just as much to blame for not closing him out and ending the fight.

It's not necessarily about taking chances, it's about WINNING the fight and closing your opponent down and showing you have the killer instinct.

If I was GSP, I'd be licking my chops, knowing Silvia will fight smart to try and save his own belt. It's like they say in the NFL, the prevent defense only does one thing - it prevents you from winning.

It's true both fighters lost, but Silvia should be taking more of the blame. True champions play to win, they don't play not to lose.



Daniel H. M.
23 Apr 2009, 09:02
To CameraManZoomIt :

MMA is not "2 guys beating the crap out of each other". It's a fighting sport requiring technique, athleticism and sportsmanship.

It's not a bar brawl.
Sheff
23 Apr 2009, 09:33
I watched the pay-per-view with a bunch of friends, and while it was aggravating to see Silva and Leites do anything but fight for most of the match the other night, I understood Silva's decision to back off him and play for the win. Dana White runs a business and I understand his desire to please the fans, but Silva was smart. He didn't deserve the post-fight criticism.
D
23 Apr 2009, 09:46
I'm not sure why most of the individuals commenting failed to see your points (perhaps they failed to actually read the article), but I'm grateful that somebody finally stood up with this position.
Mick Foley
23 Apr 2009, 10:19
Its not the announcers fault. They have Dana White screaming in their head sets "say damn it! Say it!". Of course UFC is just a bunch of sweaty men in tights rolling around together while other sweaty men cheer them on. The whole thing reeks of staff infection and greek bath houses.
Dugan
23 Apr 2009, 13:49
Just wanna quickly say that I agree with the writer of this article wholeheartedly. Maybe out in the street, the idea is to beat yer opponent into the sidewalk; in the professional ring, the purpose is to WIN without putting oneself at unnecessary risk. If anything, Dana White is to blame, for matching Silva against a tomato can that had no chance of beating the champ.
John K
23 Apr 2009, 14:28
While I definitely agree that the objective of fighting in UFC is to get a win, there is one "real sport" analogy that doesn't apply. If I'm a football fan, I'm not charged $60 to watch the Super Bowl. I'm not expected to fork over $40 a game to watch the World Series. I'm not even charged for that week 17 of action when the starters are benched. If the action in these sporting events is lacking, then that is just part of the deal.

The problem comes in when you're charging premium prices just to view the event in your home. If UFC (or even WWE for that matter) was broadcasting the cards for free, or on HBO, then the argument could be made that it's all about winning. When you charge a large amount of money to view the event, other factors such as entertainment value, come into play.
Jared
23 Apr 2009, 15:43
I couldn't agree with this article more. Would I have liked to see a decisive finish? Of course. But what is Silva supposed to do when Leites was backing down the whole fight? To suggest that Silva should have pressed the action at the risk of getting caught is absurd. Who in their right mind would risk their title and the record for longest win streak in UFC history in an attempt to please some fans?

As far as earning respect in defeat, GSP's stock didn't rise after he got pounded out by Serra two years ago. And what's the standard statement given by a fighter when they get caught and are knocked out? "I made a mistake". The difference with Silva is that he didn't make a mistake. He didn't let Leites dictate whether the fight was going to stand up or go to the ground, and he didn't lose his composure and over pursue Leites at the risk of getting caught.

Silva completely outclassed Leites and proved that Thales Leites is not championship material. If Silva would have been aggressive just to put on a show and got caught, it wouldn't prove that Leites is better because anyone can get caught at any time. Everyone should be glad Silva won. It's better to have a dominant champion who's fights are boring because he outclasses his opponents than witnessing the crowning of a fluke champion.
Snow Devil
23 Apr 2009, 18:44
MMA has to be taken seriously as a real sport if it's going to get the kind of mainstream acceptance Dana White and most MMA promoters crave. It can't do that if fighters are pushed to kill themselves for the sake of a few finicky PPV customers who want bloodsport. Keller's right: there are going to be clunkers and in the real world you never get what you pay for 100 % of the time.

It happens in movies and music, too: Think about paying top dollar to see your favorite band and then when the concert begins you see they are just going through the motions and you aren't going to see the performance you wanted. I'll bet that's happened to everybody who regularly goes to concerts, but if you're a real music fan, you accept it will happen. If you're a fan of movies, you'll accept that you'll sometimes pay to see a bad movie. MMA should be no different.

I really don't think fans who demand bloodsport every time are MMA fans. A lot of criticism directed at MMA has to do with the fans who want human cockfighting instead of athletic competition. MMA has made great strides to be accepted as a real sport and it can afford to lose those fans who want human cockfighting. Look at the NFL: It's not Bronco Nagurski football anymore, but that kind of football was never "America's sport." It took the exorcism of the bloodsport element of football to make it huge: players may still take steroids but at least the quarterback can see his receivers, has time to throw to them, and isn't getting killed every play. Obviously, that's the kind of football Americans want to see. How many otherwise-interested MMA customers are still turned off by the human cockfighting image and the fact that Dana White and the fans can't accept that occasionally a fight will be a clunker and not a bloody KO?
John K
23 Apr 2009, 19:23
A fight doesn't have to be "bloodsport" to be an exciting, compelling contest.
Good Job Keller
23 Apr 2009, 21:33
Great article Keller,

This was very well written, the best article ever written on this site. You really should do more of the writing here rather then let the amateurs you have take over. But I digress.

You nailed it on the head. So many of the fans now are not students of the game. They just want to see guys beating each other up.

I will go one step further than you though, I don't think Silva was holding on the ball and letting the clock run out. I think Silva was still active, his style is just not to take a shot to give a shot. He wants to win and not injure himself and there is nothing wrong with that.

If someone wants to fight like Forrest Griffin and get beat him that's OK too, but don't criticize Silva. Just because he is a fighter does not mean he has to get hurt. If you are in War you don't have to just shot, the point in war is to beat your opponent with as little damage to yourself as possible. That's the same thing here. Too many people are just interested in seeing guys kill each other. Go watch youtube for that.

How many people will be back on the bandwagon when Silva fights an aggressive striker and knocks him out in 30 seconds?

How many people are going to complain in May when two counter punches, Machida and Evans fight. Get ready for another tactical 5 rounds.
Michael KopStick
24 Apr 2009, 05:58
The way readers respond here sort of insults PWTorch.com's Readers Response. Wow, who would have thought, no mom jokes or hate comments in such a widely commented-on article. This site puts pro wrestling fans to shame.
Wes Drake
24 Apr 2009, 12:39
I can understand the criticism for Anderson and I can see how he played the smart game. What it comes down to though is that Thales Leites did not do enough, he backed down, he bored the fans not necessarily Anderson. I do think that Anderson could and should have submitted him to end the fight better and sooner, that is hardly pushing things in a dangerous direction.

Excitement from a fan perspective isn't necessarily a blood bath or a slug fest, its just something, action. That match was one guy falling over and the other dancing around and not doing an awful lot for 25 mins.

They REALLY need to think about who these so called contenders are before making the match ups. Thales will regret blowing that title shot but he should never have been put in that spot to begin with.
Tom Violence
27 Apr 2009, 10:20
Snow Devil writes:

"Think about paying top dollar to see your favorite band and then when the concert begins you see they are just going through the motions and you aren't going to see the performance you wanted. I'll bet that's happened to everybody who regularly goes to concerts, but if you're a real music fan, you accept it will happen."

Bullshit.

First of all, what thefuck is a "real" music fan, anyway? (Somebody who likes "both types of music - country *and* western"??)

Secondly, if I pay "top dollar" to see a music act perform, and that act sucks balls and gives no effort, then the chances I'll pay to see that act again are the same as me eating the performers' feces and licking my lips and calling it chocolate ice-cream.

Which is to say, I won't pay to see that act again, 'cos I feel ripped-off.

John K hits the nail on the head:

"If I'm a football fan, I'm not charged $60 to watch the Super Bowl. I'm not expected to fork over $40 a game to watch the World Series. ... When you charge a large amount of money to view the event, other factors such as entertainment value, come into play."

There's a reason that pro wrestling materialised in the first place, when "real" wrestlers realized that chin-locks and missionary positions bored the fans to sleep and were bad for business.
BwanaBob
28 Apr 2009, 08:47
Good article, Wade. Really good article. I wish you'd put this much time and skill into your recent articles about pro wrestling. It's frustrating to see how well you can do your job when you're motivated to it.
ben
05 Jun 2009, 21:13
I can't agree more with this article. MMA is a sport and the UFC (note that it isn't the UFE) is about competition. We watch competitions because they are entertaining but this doesn't cease to make them competitions. A true fan of the SPORT should be disappointed when grapplers decide to stand and fight to please fans, or when an undeserving fighter gets a title shot because he is more marketable. If you want to see unrealistic non-stop dramatic action the UFC ( and sports in general) is not for you. Just as basketball has the Globetrotters, competitive fighting has the WWE, and if you're interested in pure, unrealistic entertainment you can find it there.
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STRIKEFORCE: HOUSTON RESULTS - Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza captures vacant Middleweight Championship with decision win over Tim Kennedy
STRIKEFORCE: HOUSTON RESULTS - Penick's live round by round report of King Mo vs. Feijao event on Showtime
BELLATOR 25 RESULTS: Pelkey's live round by round report of Horbuckle vs. Blackburn headlined event from Chicago
TV Reviews
THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER REPORT 6/9: Hyden's (Virtual Time) rundown of all the fights, all the drama in a 2 hour episode on Spike TV
THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER REPORT 6/2: Hyden's (Virtual Time) rundown of all the fights, all the drama on Spike TV
THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER REPORT 5/26: Hyden's rundown of all the fights, all the drama on Spike TV
THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER REPORT 5/19: Hyden's (Virtual Time) rundown of all the fights, all the drama on Spike TV
THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER REPORT 5/12: Hyden's rundown of all the fights, all the drama on Spike TV
THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER REPORT 5/5: Hyden's (Virtual Time) rundown of all the fights, all the drama on Spike TV
Live Event Reports
BELLATOR 26 RESULTS: Carter's Live Report - Heavyweight, Bantamweight, and Women’s 115 lbs. Quarterfinal Tournament Bouts
STRIKEFORCE: HOUSTON RESULTS - Unaired preliminary card results for event from the Toyota Center
BELLATOR 24 RESULTS: Carter's Live Report - Season Three Debut Show
LOCAL SCENE: First round finishes abound at "Combat on Capitol Hill 2" in St. Paul, MN
LOCAL SCENE: Havoc at the Hyatt II brings good fights and controversy to Minneapolis on Saturday night
BELLATOR 21 RESULTS: Carter's Report of the Lightweight Tournament Finals
Opinion & Analysis
UK SCENE: A bad week for UK fighters capped off at UFC 118; Daley's continued dismissal and UK news in brief
ROUNDTABLE (pt. 1): What's next for B.J. Penn and Kenny Florian after their UFC 118 losses? Marsh, Hyden, Hobaugh, Leet and Hansen
THE TAPPER'S TOOLBOX: Fixing the little mistakes in your BJJ game - "How to break guard"
HYDEN BLOG: Change Can Be A Good Thing
PARK: A look at five era-changing losses by UFC Champions following B.J. Penn's UFC 118 loss to Frankie Edgar
ALL BUSINESS: The UFC 118 and Fan Expo Live Experience - Thoughts From a Fan Who Loves This Business
Interviews
STRIKEFORCE QUOTABLES: Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal says he deserved to lose to Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante because he abandoned his gameplan
QUOTABLES: Paul Daley says UFC "God" Dana White rules the UFC with an iron rod
UFC QUOTABLES: Lightweight Champion Frankie Edgar says he's fine with fans taking time to believe in him after consecutive wins over B.J. Penn
QUOTABLES: Shaquille O'Neal says he wants to fight one MMA fight against Hong Man-Choi
BELLATOR NEWS: Travis Reddinger credits trainer Sergio Cunha for his progression; ready for "explosive" bantamweight tournament
UFC QUOTABLES: UFC welterweight and former pro boxer Marcus Davis doesn't think James Toney will be able to do anything at UFC 118
Champs & Rankings
UFC 118: Edgar vs. Penn II Prediction and Betting Contest Results
MMATorch Staff Rankings - August 2010
UFC 117 Prediction and Betting Contest Results
UFC 116: Lesnar vs. Carwin Prediction and Betting Contests Results
MMATorch Staff Rankings - July 2010
UFC 115 Prediction and Betting Contest Results
Ask the Torch
Ask MMATorch: Answers to your questions about Shamrock, Half vs. Full Guard, Hammill, UFC Pay
DVD Reviews
DVD REVIEW: "UFC: Rampage Greatest Hits" a great collection of fights for Rampage fans new and old
DVD WORLD: Pride 33 "The Second Coming" - Dan "Hollywood" Henderson vs. Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva (pt. 8)
DVD WORLD: Pride 33 "The Second Coming" - Nick Diaz vs. "The Fireball Kid" Takanori Gomi (pt. 7)
DVD WORLD: Pride 33 "The Second Coming" - Alistair "Ubereem" Overeem vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (pt. 6)
DVD WORLD: Pride 33 "The Second Coming" - Sergei Kharitonov vs. Mike Russow (pt. 5)
DVD WORLD: Pride 33 "The Second Coming" - Hayato "Mach" Sakurai vs. Mac Danzig (pt. 5)
Torch Flashbacks
FLASHBACK: Keller's full fight report and more Dana White quotes on UFC's debacle of an event back in 2001
KELLER: Dana White had a night even worse than Strikeforce's on Saturday night back in 2001
FLASHBACK (3 YRS AGO): Keller's UFC 69 Report with Georges St. Pierre vs. Matt Serra, Koscheck vs. Sanchez, Huerta vs. Garcia
ENNIS (Flashback 2006): Pride vs. UFC: Which Aspects of Each Promotion Would You Keep?
FLASHBACK - 3 YRS AGO: Ennis's UFC 67 Report - Rampage and Cro Cop debut, Anderson Silva defends, Scott Smith, Roger Huerta
1 YR AGO - PENICK'S UFC 88 REPORT: Rashad Evans vs. Chuck Liddell, Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill, plus Hendo, Marquardt (w/star ratings)
Torch MMA Polls
MMATORCH POLL: Bellator CEO Bjorn Rebney says not all MMA fans are NFL fans. Be heard, are you a fan of one sport alone or both?
NEW MMATORCH POLL: Who should Anderson Silva face next?
POLL: Should Liddell retire or fight again? Should Cro Cop retire or fight again?
MMATORCH POLL: Which fight are you anticipating more - Lesnar vs. Carwin or Silva vs. Sonnen?
POLL: What should Paul Daley's punishment be for the post-fight cheapshot at Koscheck?
MMATORCH POLL: Who will win and how in the UFC 113 main event between Lyoto Machida and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
Prediction and Betting Contests
UFC 118: Edgar vs. Penn II Prediction and Betting Contest Results
UFC 118 Prediction and Betting Contests
UFC 117 Prediction and Betting Contest Results
UFC 117: Silva vs. Sonnen Prediction and Betting Contests


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