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Opinion & Analysis : Hyden's Take

HYDEN BLOG: PED Use Didn't Cause Brock's Illness


Nov 17, 2009 - 12:57:05 PM
By Frank Hyden, MMATorch Contributor

I talked to a doctor friend of mine, and consulted WebMD, in order to study up a bit on diverticulitis. I had a relative who was diagnosed with this condition several years ago, and I was curious to see if there had been any new treatments or techniques in the recent years. The good news is that it's very possible to live a normal life, albeit with a few lifestyle changes. Obviously, there's no way to tell how Brock's fighting life will be affected, but the fact that he's had surgery means that it was a severe case. Only about 5% of patients with diverticulitis need surgery. Doctors aren't certain what causes diverticulitis, but a low-fiber diet may be one of the factors.

I personally believe that Brock Lesnar has used, and is probably still using, PED's (Performance-Enhancing Drugs). Note- This opinion does not represent the views of anyone else at MMATorch.com. This is my opinion, and my opinion only. I want to make that clear, I don't speak for anyone else or any of the other writers. Having said that, I'm not one of those guys who thinks people who use PED's should be thrown in jail or something. The definition of what makes a PED isn't even clear, though. Vitamins and supplements aren't considered PED's, but some agencies consider caffeine to be a PED? I'm getting off-topic, though. This is a subject for another time, it can be a very heated subject because there's a lot to debate. For the record, I think a lot of athletes, I would say a majority, are using PED's of some nature. Before you bash me, though, keep in mind that the definition of what constitutes a PED is nebulous.

My point is that there's essentially a 0% chance that Brock's diverticulitis was caused by steroids or other PED's. If PED's caused diverticulitis, then we'd see a lot more cases in athletes. I think this is a case where a guy got an inflammation or infection in his colon. Brock should be able to resume a relatively normal life. How this will affect his fighting career is unknown at this time. I think Brock will be able to come back from this. I don't know if he'll be able to resume the form he once had, only time can tell us that. I'm hoping he makes a full recovery, he's a polarizing figure that brings visibility to MMA.

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Cole
17 Nov 2009, 13:11
You've got balls Frank. The Lesnar fans are going to ream you for this and some them can be as mean as Lesnar himself. I am not a Lesnar fan, and it wouldn't surprise me if he was using PED's, but I am curious to know why you think he does. I've noticed that those freakish shoulder neck muscles of his seem to have shrunk since his WWE days.
Dr Gasket
17 Nov 2009, 13:13
Maybe not. If you look at the cause of it, it would seem to be related to diet and bowel movement. Simply put :-) if you can't shit and push too hard, you burst your colon. The question would be is this a one time event, or an accumulation over time. (note the disease or illness of the blown gasket is the blown gasket being infected, not the blowing of the gasket which suggests the gasket could always have been blown and unnoticed until it becomes infected)

As with aspirins and tylonel when you're sick it clogs you right up. If this is a one time event, as in during his mono recovery he was "clogged up" with medication and pushed too hard and blew a gasket, then probably totally unrelated to PED's however if over a lifetime this is an accumulated event, then maybe, yes, years of use of "drugs" created unnatural amounts or periods of constipation which each time, pushed the colon to it's max, and over time, with unatural cloggage, the gasket finally blows. Like now.

What Causes Diverticular Disease?
Doctors believe a low-fiber diet is the main cause of diverticular disease. The disease was first noticed in the United States in the early 1900's. At about the same time, processed foods were introduced to the American diet. Many processed foods contain refined, low-fiber flour. Unlike whole-wheat flour, refined flour has no wheat bran. Diverticular disease is common in developed or industrialized countries--particularly the United States, England, and Australia--where low-fiber diets are common. The disease is rare in countries of Asia and Africa, where people eat high-fiber vegetable diets. Fiber is the part of fruits, vegetables, and grains that the body cannot digest. Some fiber dissolves easily in water (soluble fiber). It takes on a soft, jelly-like texture in the intestines. Some fiber passes almost unchanged through the intestines (insoluble fiber). Both kinds of fiber help make stools soft and easy to pass. Fiber also prevents constipation.
Constipation makes the muscles strain to move stool that is too hard. It is the main cause of increased pressure in the colon. The excess pressure causes the weak spots in the colon to bulge out and become diverticula.

Diverticulitis occurs when diverticula become infected or inflamed. Doctors are not certain what causes the infection. It may begin when stool or bacteria are caught in the diverticula. An attack of diverticulitis can develop suddenly and without warning.
Trend Tracker
17 Nov 2009, 15:34
What I find interesting about this is not so much the references to PEDs, but that Diverticulitis is equally hard to quantify, both in its origins and it's treatment. I mentioned in a previous blog that my wife and my brother have both been diagnosed and treated for it.

The thing is, where some doctors think a low fiber diet can cause it, many other doctors think it's high fiber diets that cause it (or cause its flare-ups.) The higher fiber foods, like sesame seeds and popcorn get caught more easily in people whose intestines have more pronounced pockets. In the case of my wife, she is now on a low fiber diet because her life-long natural high fiber diet was supposedly causing the problem.

My brother now has a moderate fiber diet after being on a high fiber diet his whole life. He's made great progress with this diet.

And just so you know, neither had any problems with constipation issues before the attacks. Both had natural, normal bowel movements before they had their flare-ups. So this disease is not exactly what people are thinking or reading. But it is SOME of the time.

(And people wonder why we keep our names anonymous during these discussions...)

One point, again for a later discussion. If I said a person was a "drug addict" but then said the definition of drug addict has to be defined before we could discuss it, I think it would be better that I not label someone a drug addict until I actually DID define it. Saying someone is a PED user and then leaving the definition open and nebulous is kind of cheating in a "sensationalist journalism" sort of libelous way. Especially since this was not the time or place for that discussion. Bring it up as its own topic, and let's discuss it then.
Code name Kid next door
17 Nov 2009, 18:45
While PEDs may not cause diverticulitis, certain painkillers do have major digestive side effects. In my lifetime, the most famous of these was Brett Favre, who had a vicodin addiction in the late 90s that led to him to go weeks between bowel movements, information about which is actually on brettfavre.com (again, thank god for anonymous posts). While I do agree with you that Lesnar's illness is likely not the result of drug use, I'm not ready to totally discount it. That said, I actually am a Lesnar fan, and do hope that he comes back 100%
BudLight Not CoorsLight
17 Nov 2009, 20:53
This is really poor journalism, steroids would not have caused Lesnar's illness. As a med student this is really uninformed, accusing him of taking illegal substances is outrageous with no history of drug taking. Steroids can make a man bald more quickly than normal does this mean Randy Couture or Fedor is taking them? Of course not! A hack trying to get his name out there at the expense of a sick pro athlete, website is great but this guy should never feature on it again.
Frank Hyden
18 Nov 2009, 01:00
I had actually planned on making this blog longer, going into more detail about why I believe Brock is on PED's. I was going to post the blog tomorrow.
However, I got a few calls from people earlier this morning asking if there was a link between steroids and diverticulitis. As far as I know, and this is based on what I've read and heard from doctors, there's no confirmed link between the two.
And TrendTracker, my definition of a PED user is someone who uses steroids, or HGH, or blood-packing, or cortizone, or some other artificial way of increasing performance. Most of the stuff I just mentioned you can't test for.
The number 1 reason I think Brock is on PED's is that I have eyes. I know you cant always use the visual detector to suspect someone of using PED's, but Brock was also in pro wrestling. He looked different then, as opposed to now. He's probably still on PED's.
As I mentioned, though, I don't consider PED use to be as heinous as some other people do.
I plan on blogging more about this as soon as I can.
Boles
18 Nov 2009, 08:07
Please don't. Every time you write my eyes bleed, and the planet's collective intelligence takes a small dip.
Frank Hyden
18 Nov 2009, 11:47
Oh, my bad, Boles. I didn't know there was a gun to your head, forcing you to read my blog.
George
18 Nov 2009, 11:50
STFU Boles, you're a toolbox
King_of_Kings
18 Nov 2009, 12:24
Thanks for the extremely long wikipedia entry dr. Gasket. I also find it very funny that Boles talks intelligence in a sport where people beat each others brains in.
King of Kings
18 Nov 2009, 13:07
Thanks for the extremely long wikipedia entry Doc Gasket. Its ironic that Boles would be talking about intelligence in a sport where people beat. Each others brains in.
shannon
18 Nov 2009, 14:00
http://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/116-1183/631/

re: steroids/diverticulitis link.
Cody
18 Nov 2009, 14:29
I really don't know why everyone always says that Brock is using or has ever used steroids. As far as his physique changing from WWE to UFC, the measure of success in pro wrestling is image and marketability, not athletic ability. So why wouldnt brock want to get as big as he can so people would se him as a monster therefore buy more tickets. In the ufc he has to cut weight to 265 which he didnt have to do in WWE. so why lift as much as he did back then when that means more of a weight cut come fight night? it just doesnt make sense. Does he use legal supplements? absolutely. He couldnt get that big with out them. So I hate to see people pull the steroid card when the person in question is bigger, with more dedication and mental toughness than the guy behind the keyboard.
thejyav
18 Nov 2009, 22:26
Outrageous "journalism", If you are in anyway paid to write for the torch I hope Brock sues the crap out of this site.
Cole
19 Nov 2009, 02:06
How on earth could Brock sue the website for an opinion? Why do people keep calling this Journalism? It's not intended to be journalism. Didn't you see the big OPINION & ANALYSIS heading at the top of the article? Let the guy have his opinion sheesh.

I think Boles's comment is out of line too, but in all fairness King of Kings, MMA is not void of intelligence. There's a lot of strategy, planning and psychological stuff going on. MMA is the only sport I have any interest in whatsoever, and as weird as it is to hear it my least favorite part is people getting beat up. The parts I like are the strategy, technique and edge-of-your-seat action. If they could pull all that off without guys getting beat up that would be awesome, but I have yet to see an alternative. :)
Федор Емельяненко
19 Nov 2009, 06:58
This is absolutely ridiculous! A guy gets a serious decease and the only talk which goes on the web STILL is is it because of steroids or not. This is pathetic, guys. And what if he had AIDS or cancer or something? I guess in this case we could see something like:

HYDEN BLOG: PED Use Didn't Cause Brock's AIDS.

You, Frank, say that "the definition of what makes a PED isn't even clear", but you still somehow manage to state that they are not a factor here. I don't understand it. Are protein bars and supplements a PED? Because they certainly mess with someone's digestion.

What bothers me is how a guy can get "an inflammation or infection in his colon"? Sounds sick.

Anyways, Brock - you are the man, get well soon! You still have a certain dream match to have ;)
Jim Rogers
19 Nov 2009, 12:20
Well, first off, Brock would never sue anybody who said that he (Brock) uses steroids. The reason is that he'd have to prove that he doesn't use steroids. He doesn't want that, because he knows he'd fail.
Frank Hyden
19 Nov 2009, 12:27
I want to thank Shannon for bringing to my attention that there can be a link between steroid use and the masking of the early symptoms of diverticulitis.
King of Kings
19 Nov 2009, 12:30
Cody your an idiot. Look at Lesnar when he was in college and then when he came into WWE. Big difference there. It's an opinion piece you fucking morons.
Just the Facts
19 Nov 2009, 16:04
I'm not exactly sure when folks got the idea that it was okay to slander or libel someone just as long as it's clearly stated that it's "only an opinion."

For instance, if I said that I THINK that Frank is a an alcoholic, an illegal drug user, a wife beater, and a terrorist and my evidence for that opinion is the picture that he displays of himself on this website, and followed that observation up with, "but that's only an opinion," it does not make me any less libel for action if Frank wanted to sue me.

Notice I said "if" I wanted to state this. I am in no way suggesting that Frank is any of those things.

But there is a point to all of this. Brock would not have to prove that he was "not a PED user" in order to have a defamation suit brought against anyone. The person making the claim would have to prove he was a user or he would be found guilty of slander. Destroying someone's good name and reputation is a punishable offense. Especially if other people start sharing that same opinion. If Frank's opinion would cause more of you to think that Brock is a PED user, that would be the very basis of the lawsuit. In fact that's the very definition of slander. Frank would be wrecking Brock's reputation by convincing others that Brock is a PED user.

Considering that Brock has passed every PED test he was ever given, it would be impossible to show or prove that Brock was a PED user. Brock would then win his lawsuit. It really is that easy.

I'm not sure how many of you follow the news, but the next big thing in civil lawsuits are people suing bloggers for slandering them. It's already happening. And its happening regularly. I know if I owned this website, I sure wouldn't let Frank write for me. Most of what he says is libelous. That he doesn't know or understand that makes it even scarier. Professional writers have to know the ground rules going in. You can't break those rules without eventually getting into trouble. Of course if I were Brock, I'd also sue the owner of this site which I believe is Wade Keller, that's where the money is.

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if you deliberately make disparaging remarks about someone and you cannot prove them, you can and will be found guilty in a court of law if the case is ever brought to court.

Even opinions need some truth for support. Just looking at photographs isn't proof. Take a look at top pro football players and what they used to look like in college. Good consistent weight training doesn't always point to 'roids. It just means you're a hard worker who is serious about what you do.

"King of Kings" is a good example of how agreeing with what Frank wrote is perpetuating what Frank said. His agreement is now propagating the lie that Frank started. That's how slander works.

You can say you think that Brock is a lousy MMA fighter, but you cannot accuse him of doing something illegal unless you have evidence to the contrary. And you better have some good evidence, even if you say it's just an opinion.
Cole
19 Nov 2009, 16:42
That's sad. Our legal system shouldn't work that way.
Trend Tracker
19 Nov 2009, 19:09
Actually, I'm glad America's system of justice assumes someone is innocent until proven guilty. I'm also glad it prevents rumor and innuendo from destroying people's lives.

People often talk about freedom of speech in America without giving it a second thought that responsibility and restraint must be shown by the speakers in question if we are still going to have a civilized society.

Lies that are dressed in opinion are still lies. Public forums like this (that are actually ran as a business) are responsible for the content of their site. And people who make unfounded accusations can be brought to court on charges.

Frank and Wade should be very glad that Brock never bothers with websites.


jame
19 Nov 2009, 23:42
If this was true "just the facts" fox news would be off the air
Fox Guy
20 Nov 2009, 07:16
Jame

You missed the point. It's okay to say that Obama is a lousy President. It's not okay to say that he's a "murdering drug dealer." Even if you think he is and it's just your opinion, you must have real evidence of your claim before you make it public. As a nation, we've grown lax when it comes to public officials and politicians. We let more slide and we recognize it as part of the politics.

Maybe that's one of the reasons we no longer see how wrong it is when we do it to others at sites like this.

But slander and libel are wrong and you can get in trouble for it. Glenn Beck from FOX news recently lost all his sponsors for saying something that was beyond "okay." There ARE consequences when you say or publish things that are misleading and hurt someone's reputation in the process.

Don Imus lost his popular show for 18 MONTHS when his opinion went too far. It was "just his opinion" but he paid the consequences.
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